On Thursday, the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, the Saban Center for Middle East Policy at the Brookings Institution, and the Middle East Program of the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars co-hosted a conference titled Democracy and Human Rights in Iran, in honor of Siamak Pourzand. The third panel, “Politics or Culture? Iran’s Main Obstacles to Democracy,” featured Nazila Fathi, former Iran-based correspondent for the New York Times, Arash Sobhani, an Iranian musician and founder and lead singer of “Kiosk,” and Maziar Bahari, an Iranian author and documentary filmmaker. Karim Sadjadpour, senior associate of the Middle East Program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, moderated the panel.
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The panel began with a discussion of whether Iranian society was ready for female political leadership. Nazila Fathi noted women were sidelined during the 1979 revolution after having participated alongside men, but today they are prepared for leadership positions. Women make up a majority of university graduates in Iran and showed leadership capabilities during the 2009 uprisings. Arash Sobhani said that Iran was ready for female leadership, saying that it could happen if the right leadership was in power. Maziar Bahari recalled that Ayatollah Khomeini’s first political act was against women’s suffrage in Iran; he later had to co-opt women for the revolution to be successful. The present government likewise is looking to assimilate women, as it saw the power they held during the 2009 protests.
The conversation then turned to Iranians’ apparent predilection for authoritarian rule. Sobhani noted that many Iranians focused on the tangible improvements brought about by authoritarian ruler Reza Shah Pahlavi, which may cause a preference for his style of rule. He also noted that Reza Shah’s rule was characterized by social freedom that was lost during the Islamic Republic era. Bahari believed that it was a matter of security, stating that Reza Shah’s rule was characterized by stability and personal security, whereas the era of Mohammad Mossadegh, a symbol of democratic rule in Iran, was characterized by instability and chaos from various sources. Even today, the government uses a threat of instability to prolong its rule. Fathi agreed that the romanticism surrounding the Pahlavi dynasty is a result of the social freedom and visible development of the era, and few are nostalgic for Khomeini’s rule due to the fact that Khamenei’s rule has been distinctly less brutal.
Concerning religion in Iran, Bahari said that it is becoming more of a personal, rather than public, matter despite the fact that most everyone in Iran is religious in some sense. He posited that a post-Islamic Republic Iran would have religion as a wholly private matter. Fathi stated that Iranians are too often stereotyped as willing to serve or complicit with martyrdom, and Sobhani said that it is the government that injects the idea of martyrdom and public religion into society.
The final question posed was whether Iran would in the future undertake an uprising such as those seen in the Arab Spring. Fathi didn’t believe it would, due to demographic and political differences. She said that Iranians prefer a slow, grassroots change due to their fear of instability, as well as due to the fact that Iranian leadership is more prepared to deal with street protests than Arab leaders were. Sobhani believed that change is coming, as the government can’t use its wealth to subdue its people forever. Bahari agreed that the regime can’t survive forever and uses its wealth to prolong its rule. However, the people do fear chaos and Khamenei has smartly presented himself as a bastion of stability and purity.
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[ED NOTES: SO MUCH LOVE IN THIS PANEL...LETS START WITH SOME BACKROUNDS...
Karim Sadjadpour, senior associate of the Middle East Program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, moderated the panel. (I'VE EXPOSED THIS SHILL BEFORE SEE... http://thenakedfacts.blogspot.com/2011/07/rise-and-fall-of-irans-ahmadinejad.html http://thenakedfacts.blogspot.com/2011/10/portraits-of-iran-discussion-with-two.html http://thenakedfacts.blogspot.com/2011/06/zionist-neocon-watch-burkle-center-iran.html
Karim Sadjadpour - http://www.carnegieendowment.org/experts/index.cfm?fa=expert_view&expert_id=340 Karim Sadjadpour is an associate at the Carnegie Endowment. He joined Carnegie after four years as the chief Iran analyst at the International Crisis Group ----------------------
Carnegie Endowment for International Peace (WHO ARE THEY?- RIGHTWING THINK TANK REPRESENTING WHO'S INTERESTS?) Board of Trustees-Richard A. Debs, Advisory Director, Morgan Stanley/Leslie H. Gelb, President, Council on Foreign Relations/Donald V. Fites, Chairman of the Board, Caterpillar, Inc/Strobe Talbott, President, Brookings Institution/Robert Kagan is a senior associate of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and a co-founder of the Project for the New American Century (PNAC) and was one of the signers of the January 26, 1998, PNAC letter sent to President William Jefferson Clinton.[1] He is considered to be one of the leading neo-conservatives. http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Carnegie_Endowment_for_International_Peace ----------------------------------- (WHO IS INTERNATIONAL CRISIS GROUP?) International Crisis Group - http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=International_Crisis_Group Board Members - Zbigniew Brzezinski, Former U.S. National Security Advisor to the President/Stanley Fischer,Vice-Chairman, Citigroup Inc. and former First Deputy Managing Director of International Monetary Fund/George Soros, Chairman, Open Society Institute/ ------------------------------------ "Our International Advisory Board comprises key individual and corporate benefactors of Crisis Group ...Rita E. Hauser (Chair), Marc Abramowitz, Anglo American PLC, APCO Worldwide Inc., Patrick E. Benzie, BHP Billiton, Harry Bookey and Pamela Bass-Bookey, John Chapman Chester, Chevron, Peter Corcoran, Credit Suisse Group/Credit Suisse First Boston, John Ehara Equinox Partners, Dr. Konrad Fischer, Iara Lee & George Gund III Foundation, JP Morgan Global Foreign Exchange and Commodities, George Kellner, George Loening, Douglas Makepeace, Anna Luisa Ponti, Quantm, Michael L. Riordan, Sarlo Foundation of the Jewish Community Endowment Fund
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[ED NOTES ..NEXT UP... [Nazila Fathi, former Iran-based correspondent for the New York Times ...(SHE IS PART OF NIAC (NATIONAL IRANIAN AMERICAN COUNCIL) WICH IS TIED TO CIA,AND EVERY ZIONIST NEOCON THINK TANK IN UNITED STATES... especially the national endowment for democracy... [WHO ARE THE NIAC? SEE.... NED connection is Ghaemi’s role as a former board member of the National Iranian American Council, which has received over a quarter million dollars in NED grants.http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/keep-your-eyes-on-the-prize-protest-us-aggression/ Reza Marashi - Director of Research at the National Iranian American Council (NIAC) and a former Iran Desk Officer at the US Department of State http://www.niacouncil.org/site/PageServer?pagename=About_marashi
National Iranian American Council http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=National_Iranian_American_Council Board of Directors -Jamshid Foroughi, Secretary, Vice President, Citibank/ Michael Chegini, PhD, CEO and President, Owen Group/ Funding- The Open Society Institute/Tides Foundation National Endowment for Democracy
HADI GHAEMI http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Hadi_Ghaemi Hadi Ghaemi is the director of International Campaign for Human Rights in Iran[1], a project of the Dutch Foundation for Human Security in the Middle East.Former Board Member OF THE NATIONAL IRANIAN AMERICAN COUNCIL ... International Campaign for Human Rights in Iran (CIA NED FRONT) http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/keep-your-eyes-on-the-prize-protest-us-aggression/ An even closer connection to the NED funds is that of the apparent US organizer of the United for Iran rallies, Hadi Ghaemi. Mr. Ghaemi is is the director of the International Campaign for Human Rights in Iran. This group is a project of the Dutch Foundation for Human Security in the Middle East. More important as regards his NED connection is Ghaemi’s role as a former board member of the National Iranian American Council, which has received over a quarter million dollars in NED grants
Nazila Fathi Addresses National Iranian American Council (NIAC ... Iran - 19 March 2011 - Human Rights Conference - Nazila Fathi ...
[ED NOTES: SHE IS ALSO A GREEN MOVEMENT SUPPORTER..THIS GREEN MOVEMENT... http://irangreenmovementexposed.blogspot.com/
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[ED NOTES:NEXT UP... Maziar Bahari, an Iranian author and documentary filmmaker..(WHO IS HE?ANOTHER GREEN MOVEMENT SHILL WHO WAS A REGULAR ON ''ZERO CREDIBILITY ... MI6'S BBC PERSIAN'' AND REGULAR AT IMPERIALIST FRIENDLY CARNEGIE .HE'S ALSO QUITE FOND OF ISRAEL )
Israel embraces Press TV accuser http://www.presstv.ir/detail/221409.html Iranian-born Canadian journalist Maziar Bahari, who filed a lawsuit against Press TV after the channel aired his interview, has travelled to Israel and delivered a speech which was welcomed by the Israelis.Bahari, who is in Israel for the production of a documentary film, delivered the speech in a business and law center, the Persian service of Radio Israel reported on Monday.
Maziar Bahari and the contradictions of the Green Movement fantasists http://www.iranaffairs.com/iran_affairs/2010/06/maziar-bahari-and-the-contradictions-of-the-green-movement-fantasists.html
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[ED NOTES: THIS IS JUST THEIR BACKROUNDS... AS YOU CAN SEE THESE PEOPLE ARE TIED TO ZIONISTS,EXTREMELY FOND OF NEOCONS AND FAVOR REAPROACHMENT WITH THE WESTS NEOCOLONIAL AND IMPERIAL AGENDAS...
AS FARAS SABAN CENTER AND CARNEGIE..MORE ON THEM FROM MY FILES ... Carnegie Endowment for International Peace held an event entitled “Will Economic Disruption Derail the Arab Spring? Tuesday, November 8, 2011 - THENAKEDFACTS Portraits of Iran - THENAKEDFACTS
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 - THENAKEDFACTS http://thenakedfacts.blogspot.com/2011/10/syria-opposition-watch-radwan-ziadeh.html ZIONIST SABAN -BROOKINGS THINK TANK ... - THENAKEDFACTS ZIONISTWATCH-Saban Forum 2011 N. - THENAKEDFACTS
THESE ARE JUST A FEW ..IM PRESSED ON TIME SORRY...
THESE SPEAKERS ARE ALL FRAUDS,LIARS AND SHILLS FOR GREEN MOVEMENT WICH IS A FRONT FOR CIA AND ZIONISM AND THEY FAVOR AN OLD PRO MONARCHY SYSTEM CONTROLLED BY WEST... SEE GREEN MOVEMENT HERE.. http://irangreenmovementexposed.blogspot.com/
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